+-----------------------------+ | UPDATED (11/21/08 16:26:24) | +-----------------------------+ Banned again. LoL. After months of absence I decided trying out BFG*WURST again. I happened to run directly into Wurst. I gave him a nice lesson, duh! :P Best thing is: I recorded a demo (tauntwurstondm2.dm3). Check it out, you'll see how I psychologically deceive him with my BFG fire. All the time I do NOT use hook. Wurst doesn't as well, except in the end. I did NOT use any cheats, aimbots, wallhacks, zzz models, hook... nothing :) A clean beating. Nice. PS: If u want to know how I did it, read chapters I.3), II.3) and V.5) of the Q3 Hook Tutorial that u can find on this site. +-------------------------+ | BANNED ON WURST EPISODE | +-------------------------+ Ok, this is the story how I got banned on WURST BFG+HOOK server. Basically Wurst accused me of cheating, he couldn't understand how I managed to do some frags which were impossible from his perspective. So he took demos of me and watched them in slow motion, took more demos and discussed all of it with other players (noobs basically in my opinion ;-). However, he decided that I couldn't be clean and banned me. This happened two years ago. Well, at that time I had taken a break off of Q3, so I didn't really realize that I got banned. After some time I just noticed that I couldn't reach any of his servers. Which lead me to think that he must have changed IP or his servers were down. But some other players told me his servers were still active. I didn't think about all that, because I did not believe he would have banned me without speaking to me first, we had a good relation at that time. Then after some time I was able to reach the servers again. And I had started to play Q3 again. At that time I heard some rumours about Wurst having me banned etc. I didn't pay any attention to it. Maybe he banned some cheater who just happened to have the same IP range I had... But then, when I was playing for a few weeks, I met him on the server. He didn't say much, but he said "grish dont cheat" and immediately disconnected. Well that pissed me of. The rumours turned out to be true. This was the time to make my point ;-) So I started playing with a nick BAN4PWNAGEDONTLIE on his server. When he finally got on the server again, he saw my name and kicked me right after saying "I think I am getting envious" in german. Of course he banned my IP range again... :P The next day I spoke with him on msn. He told me how much effort he had put in proving me cheating, which really is an honour for me, hehe. He said that in those demos I was able to frag players that I wasn't able to see, hear or recognize in any other way. As an example for this he mentioned a situation on dm3. He said someone spawns and runs into the dark corner of the map (he meant the one were the haste spawns), next thing you see is BFG fire flying to the corner and AFTER that you see me coming there. He claimed that without cheats nobody would be able to have seen someone standing in the corner. He neglected to mention other situations but he said it was all the same. At this time I just told him that don't need to see a player to know were he is. I use the BFG fire to test if someone is there. You know if I hear that I hit something I know there is an enemy and of course I fire more if he isn't dead due to test fire already. Well, I made a screenshot after that discussion. A screen how I see that particular corner and it is clearly to see for everyone that I am able to see a player standing there even without zzz models. I don't know how it must have looked from his view. Anyway, after that discussion he unbanned me. I told him thx for unban but I just wanted to know if he still had the demos. Because I could have put them here on the site if it was such a great material that an experienced player and admin was lead to think that I used cheats ;-) I'm always looking for good demos because I often forget to record the games. And those I do record are often not as good as some other games... I told him that I didn't plan to play on his server again, maybe connect there to chat with some others. Why should I play on his server if he still thinks I was cheating? If I play too good again the story would just start all over. No, there are lots of servers on which I'm welcome and nobody thinks I cheat. When I finally asked him why I rule on dm17 as well, a map on which cheats aren't any help on a BFG server, he didn't answer me anymore. Would have been interesting to hear what kind of cheats I would use on that map, because a wallhack is useless there and an aimbot as well. With an aimbot I wouldn't be able to frag someone while he is flying in the air with a BFG. So that's the story, I have put the screen of the dm3 corner and a rather average demo of dm17 here, so you can decide for yourself if I am a cheater :P I also put here a log of the final conversation I had with him, so you can see that all of this is just as I say.